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	<title>Comments on: Alhamdulillah for lloyds TSB Bank</title>
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	<description>Restoring Zakat in the 21st Century in accordance with the Shariah and the Sunnah</description>
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		<title>By: iqra jillani</title>
		<link>http://zakatpages.com/2007/01/19/alhamdulillah-for-lloyds-tsb-bank/#comment-1353</link>
		<dc:creator>iqra jillani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Respected sir,
MY NAME IS IQRA,I AM STUDENT OF CA.NOW I HAVE MANY FAIMLY AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS SO ITS DIFFICULT TO CONTINUE MY EDUCATION,BUT I WANT TO STUDY FOR MY COUNTRY ,FOR MY FAIMLY,SIR PLEASE HELP ME FINANCIAL ,MY FATHER IS JOBLESS AND WE HAVE NO MONEY TO START BUSINESS.SO HELP US BEING A PAKISTANI.
I AM WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY.plz help me who read this.

THANKS ALOT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respected sir,<br />
MY NAME IS IQRA,I AM STUDENT OF CA.NOW I HAVE MANY FAIMLY AND FINANCIAL PROBLEMS SO ITS DIFFICULT TO CONTINUE MY EDUCATION,BUT I WANT TO STUDY FOR MY COUNTRY ,FOR MY FAIMLY,SIR PLEASE HELP ME FINANCIAL ,MY FATHER IS JOBLESS AND WE HAVE NO MONEY TO START BUSINESS.SO HELP US BEING A PAKISTANI.<br />
I AM WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY.plz help me who read this.</p>
<p>THANKS ALOT.</p>
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		<title>By: Banks Gang Up on Palestinian &#38; Muslim Charities &#171; The Zakat Pages</title>
		<link>http://zakatpages.com/2007/01/19/alhamdulillah-for-lloyds-tsb-bank/#comment-769</link>
		<dc:creator>Banks Gang Up on Palestinian &#38; Muslim Charities &#171; The Zakat Pages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It might be quite timely to read our previous post &#8220;Alhamdulillah for Lloyds TSB&#8220; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It might be quite timely to read our previous post &#8220;Alhamdulillah for Lloyds TSB&#8220; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Amal Abdalhakim-Douglas</title>
		<link>http://zakatpages.com/2007/01/19/alhamdulillah-for-lloyds-tsb-bank/#comment-768</link>
		<dc:creator>Amal Abdalhakim-Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alhamdulillah, there&#039;s not really much you can add to that comment, I think it&#039;s self-explanatory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alhamdulillah, there&#8217;s not really much you can add to that comment, I think it&#8217;s self-explanatory</p>
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		<title>By: Asad Habib</title>
		<link>http://zakatpages.com/2007/01/19/alhamdulillah-for-lloyds-tsb-bank/#comment-767</link>
		<dc:creator>Asad Habib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asalam Alaykum,

I speak with experience. I am currently stuck in a HSBC Amanah finance Islamic mortgage. I have had it for over 4 years and was one of the first people on the scheme. ironicaly in this age of credit crunch i would have been paying less money on my house through a conventional &quot;non Islamic&quot; mortgage. These Islamic Banks knew all they needed were genuine gullible Muslims and they have cleaned us up.

The base interest rate of Amanah (ignoring the &quot;fiqh rhetoric&quot; of their papers trying to sound all islamic on you), is around 6.3%. It is linked to the LABOR rate. That is the London InterBank Lending Rate. which is currently always around 3%. Normal banks offer you 4 or 5 % interest but the Islamic one stays at 6% or over.

The only difference is i get a slip of paper that says &quot;Rent&quot; instead of &quot;Interest&quot; charged. In fact i would compare it to putting a veil/hijaab on a prostitute and saying she is halal just because she looks Islamic.

These Islamic banks are worse. At least with a conventional mortgage you KNOW its 100% Haram, instead of the disguised Shaytan that is the &quot;Islamic Mortgage&quot;.

Finally, the service of the bank is abysmal, they would not move my direct debit by a few days earlier, knowing full well that every month i may go over due to my wage (and so they make extra interest on me by charging me). Despite asking them to change my Amanah finance payments to the date my payslips come in, i asked them twice and they didnt want anything of it and ignored me. Riba upon riba upon riba upon riba.

Still you live and learn, so take one at our own peril...

Masalaam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asalam Alaykum,</p>
<p>I speak with experience. I am currently stuck in a HSBC Amanah finance Islamic mortgage. I have had it for over 4 years and was one of the first people on the scheme. ironicaly in this age of credit crunch i would have been paying less money on my house through a conventional &#8220;non Islamic&#8221; mortgage. These Islamic Banks knew all they needed were genuine gullible Muslims and they have cleaned us up.</p>
<p>The base interest rate of Amanah (ignoring the &#8220;fiqh rhetoric&#8221; of their papers trying to sound all islamic on you), is around 6.3%. It is linked to the LABOR rate. That is the London InterBank Lending Rate. which is currently always around 3%. Normal banks offer you 4 or 5 % interest but the Islamic one stays at 6% or over.</p>
<p>The only difference is i get a slip of paper that says &#8220;Rent&#8221; instead of &#8220;Interest&#8221; charged. In fact i would compare it to putting a veil/hijaab on a prostitute and saying she is halal just because she looks Islamic.</p>
<p>These Islamic banks are worse. At least with a conventional mortgage you KNOW its 100% Haram, instead of the disguised Shaytan that is the &#8220;Islamic Mortgage&#8221;.</p>
<p>Finally, the service of the bank is abysmal, they would not move my direct debit by a few days earlier, knowing full well that every month i may go over due to my wage (and so they make extra interest on me by charging me). Despite asking them to change my Amanah finance payments to the date my payslips come in, i asked them twice and they didnt want anything of it and ignored me. Riba upon riba upon riba upon riba.</p>
<p>Still you live and learn, so take one at our own peril&#8230;</p>
<p>Masalaam</p>
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		<title>By: Mamie Norton</title>
		<link>http://zakatpages.com/2007/01/19/alhamdulillah-for-lloyds-tsb-bank/#comment-764</link>
		<dc:creator>Mamie Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi
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good luck</description>
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good luck</p>
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		<title>By: Tammi Todd</title>
		<link>http://zakatpages.com/2007/01/19/alhamdulillah-for-lloyds-tsb-bank/#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammi Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi
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good luck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi<br />
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good luck</p>
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		<title>By: hafeez amuda</title>
		<link>http://zakatpages.com/2007/01/19/alhamdulillah-for-lloyds-tsb-bank/#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator>hafeez amuda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 17:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salaamu alaikum,
   Please how can I found zakat assistance. kindly help me for the sake of Allah. I need it for my studies.
   jazakum llahu hairun.
       Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salaamu alaikum,<br />
   Please how can I found zakat assistance. kindly help me for the sake of Allah. I need it for my studies.<br />
   jazakum llahu hairun.<br />
       Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Here it is, in their own words, the reasons why the Muslims want Shariah Finance, and why anyone who cares about freedom, women&#8217;s rights, gay rights, free speech, would be concerned about the rise of Shariah Finance. &#171; Shariah Finance Watch</title>
		<link>http://zakatpages.com/2007/01/19/alhamdulillah-for-lloyds-tsb-bank/#comment-503</link>
		<dc:creator>Here it is, in their own words, the reasons why the Muslims want Shariah Finance, and why anyone who cares about freedom, women&#8217;s rights, gay rights, free speech, would be concerned about the rise of Shariah Finance. &#171; Shariah Finance Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 01:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by allysonrt on May 22, 2008  Alhamdulillah for lloyds TSB Bank [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tahir</title>
		<link>http://zakatpages.com/2007/01/19/alhamdulillah-for-lloyds-tsb-bank/#comment-360</link>
		<dc:creator>tahir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you James khan, of all the comments, your comment was the one that made sense. Iam a novice at Islamic banking, but as you said their staff do not have enough knowledge on the products was quite right. Thank you again for your article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you James khan, of all the comments, your comment was the one that made sense. Iam a novice at Islamic banking, but as you said their staff do not have enough knowledge on the products was quite right. Thank you again for your article</p>
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		<title>By: Hajj Amal</title>
		<link>http://zakatpages.com/2007/01/19/alhamdulillah-for-lloyds-tsb-bank/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>Hajj Amal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES
I can&#039;t remember the correlation off-hand but for example a kruggerand works perfectly as an eight (8) dinar coin. The important thing is that we know exactly what a dinar is in order to work out the nisab etc.
The problem is that Eagles, Maple leafs, Pandas, Krugerrands and the like are all around the one ounce size which makes it hard to use them for smaller transactions and they are marketed more for investment purposes. The Gold Dinar, however, was always meant to be a practical coin that would be used in everyday transactions as well as savings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES<br />
I can&#8217;t remember the correlation off-hand but for example a kruggerand works perfectly as an eight (8) dinar coin. The important thing is that we know exactly what a dinar is in order to work out the nisab etc.<br />
The problem is that Eagles, Maple leafs, Pandas, Krugerrands and the like are all around the one ounce size which makes it hard to use them for smaller transactions and they are marketed more for investment purposes. The Gold Dinar, however, was always meant to be a practical coin that would be used in everyday transactions as well as savings.</p>
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